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		<title>Ask Barb: The Next Step After Leaving Voicemail</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Bruno</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Barb: For the past sixty days I’ve been using the voicemails that you suggested leaving for both marketing and recruiting presentations. It does work to get clients to call me back. In fact, I now have an 80% &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="300" height="222" src="http://www.fordyceletter.com/media/2011/08/Ask-Barb-300x222.png" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="Ask Barb" title="Ask Barb" /></p><p><strong>Dear Barb:</strong></p>
<p>For the past sixty days I’ve been using the voicemails that you suggested leaving for both marketing and recruiting presentations. It does work to get clients to call me back. In fact, I now have an 80% call back percentage. However, one of my prospects, a VP of HR, was upset when she realized I was a recruiter. She insisted on knowing the reason for my call and who referred her to me. How do I overcome this type of reaction?</p>
<p>Jill F., Springfield, IL <span id="more-7261"></span></p>
<p><strong>Dear Jill:</strong></p>
<p>The first point I want to make is you now have an 80% call back percentage. You’ve been using my voicemail for sixty days and only one person was upset.  I think those are great results.  I’ve taught hundreds of recruiters to use the same technique for over 15 years because as you’ve experienced, it does result in call backs.</p>
<p>The reason for calling is “someone suggested you call them” – that IS the reason for your call. You are trying to identify great clients or top talent to represent and referrals are the best resource. You ask every person you interview to help identify the best clients to represent and that is why you’ve targeted their company.  Keep up the good work.</p>
<p><strong>Barb Bruno, CPC, CTS</strong></p>
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<p>Would you like to <strong>Ask Barb</strong> a question? Email her at <a href="mailto:support@staffingandrecruiting.com">support@staffingandrecruiting.com</a>. Each month in <a href="https://subscriptions.fordyceletter.com/"><em>The Fordyce Letter</em> print edition</a>, Barbara Bruno answers questions from individuals in the Recruiting Profession. We will bring you some of these Q&amp;A responses from Barb each week on <a href="../">FordyceLetter.com</a>.</p>

<div><em>About the author:</em> <a href="http://www.staffingandrecruiting.com/">Barb Bruno, CPC, CTS</a>, is one of the most trusted experts, speakers, and trainers in the Staffing and Recruiting Professions. If you want to receive FREE training articles from Barb, sign up for her NO BS Newsletter! Barb has spent the last twenty years focused on helping Owners, Managers, and Recruiters increase their sales, profits, and income. Her Top Producer Tutor web-based training program jumps-starts new hires and takes experienced recruiters to their next level of production. Barb's cutting-edge program, <a href="http://www.happycandidates.com/">Happy Candidates</a>, provides you with a Customized Career Portal in less than 10 minutes. Happy Candidates allows you to help the 95% of candidates you don’t place and eliminates the greatest time waster in your business. If you’d like to contact Barb, call 219.663.9609 or email <a href="mailto:support@staffingandrecruiting.com">support@staffingandrecruiting.com</a>.
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		<title>Recruiter Chronicles: Five years, Five Lessons — Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nate Elgert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To commemorate the fifth anniversary of my career in recruiting which recently passed, I am sharing with you over the coming weeks the five biggest learning lessons I’ve experienced thus far during my time at the Aureus Group. Last &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="300" height="275" src="http://www.fordyceletter.com/media/2011/08/crappy-client1-300x275.png" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="crappy client" title="crappy client" /></p><p>To commemorate the fifth anniversary of my career in recruiting which recently passed, I am sharing with you over the coming  weeks the five biggest learning lessons I’ve experienced thus far  during my time at the Aureus Group. <a href="http://www.fordyceletter.com/2011/07/26/recruiter-chronicles-five-years-five-lessons-part-1/">Last week, I discussed a search that took me through a full year of heartache and toil before I tossed in the towel</a> (and by the way, the &#8216;client&#8217; is still working to fill that vacancy!).</p>
<p>This week, I bring you&#8230;</p>
<h3>#4: The story of the email that got me fired</h3>
<p><span id="more-6737"></span></p>
<p>I have often said that when you hit the send button on an email, there should be a pop up message that says &#8220;Dude&#8230;are you sure you want to send this?&#8221; Maybe a few stray bullets fired from my computer in the past would have been spared. Let me be clear in saying that email has forever changed the way business is done, and for the most part, has dramatically improved worldwide productivity capacity. However, the underbelly of the beast is a much uglier side to see. Email, for all its genius, has no care for the message you are intending to send. Email pays no attention to the context you desire to craft and is careless to how it is perceived by the reader. Email, in no small part, is the reason why I was fired earlier this year.</p>
<p>My recruiter Andrew and I were on a search for a high level analyst that started tremendously. We got together with the client for a phenomenal face-to-face meeting with all the key decision makers. We boiled the need down its most critical features, reached a total agreement on our search terms, set parameters for communication, and received exclusivity for our search. Everyone was on the same page and pointed in the right direction. This feeling of positivity proved to be fleeting though, and we started to see if a different side to this search.</p>
<p>Over the next few weeks, we had several extremely impressive candidates turned down without an interview. Among the few that made it through, two were noted to have very poor first interviews and were screened out from there. We made one final candidate referral which we felt was our best yet. Shortly thereafter we received, by email, a reprimand/reminder from the client that we make certain to only submit candidates that had a few very specific characteristics. It was said in this email that if we did not feel we could hold up our end off this bargain, the client needed to move on to another recruiter perhaps.</p>
<p>No worries; things like this happen in searches. We decided to press on and narrow our search further. A week went by, as we screened new possibilities, when I got another email from my client. I was alerted that they had decided to engage another recruiter, and they had three interviews set for that week already. The first part of the email did not surprise me too much. We thought this might be coming soon. The second part however really served notice. My team and I are proud of the work we do, and the way we do it. It was hard to believe another recruiter had three &#8220;pocket candidates&#8221; that we had not come across already and that the client would want to see. Feeling a bit shocked by this development I starved for information on these candidates.</p>
<p>I replied to the email regarding the new candidates, with a request for more info on these people. Surprisingly, I received an almost immediate reply with very detailed bio&#8217;s on these individuals. Reading through each description, I started to become a bit upset. Okay, that&#8217;s a lie. I was hot! These candidates did not possess the characteristics we were being demanded to present. My emotions were running really boiling over now, and I felt entitled to an explanation from the client. This emotional surge, and feeling of pride was the genesis of the ill-fated email.</p>
<p>I replied back to my client with an isolation of each candidate description sent to me, and pointed out what parts were not in line with the rules we had been given. At the end of these notes, I closed the email with a simple, and very direct question: What has changed? Now, to me, this seemed like a question worthy of an answer. I actually read the email a couple of times before I sent it and truly felt it was the message I wanted to send.</p>
<p>Then, I waited, and waited, and waited some more. Two days went by with no response. Now I was concerned and confused. What was going on? Why was it taking so long to get back? Then, there it was. With bated breath, I clicked to open the email sent from the client. It was a two-paragraph message, but it was the last sentence that pulled hard on my eyes immediately. &#8220;We will no longer be accepting referrals from your team.&#8221; The rest of the email explained and justified why these other candidates were now being considered, and why they had decided to fire me. It was, as they explained, over a lack of professionalism in the way I communicated with them.</p>
<p>Over the next few days I left a couple voice-mails, and sent an email asking for the opportunity to talk this out, confident that we could overcome. The firing, however, was reconfirmed by another email in which my contact said these attempts were too little too late and I should have communicated by phone or requested a meeting before sending the fateful email. Acceptance of my culpability quickly followed and I realized that I was indeed wrong.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>Not in the questions that I asked, but in the way I asked them. </em></p>
<p>In the final analysis of these events, here is what I learned:</p>
<ul>
<li>Never, <em>ever</em>, send an email that desires the answers to critical questions in your search process. Additionally, don&#8217;t send an email for a business purpose that has emotion inside of it. There us just no way to know how your intended recipient is going to interpret these things. Here&#8217;s a simple rule to follow: if needing to know the answer makes you sweat a little, <em>pick up the phone first!</em><em></em></li>
<li>If your client will not respond to your calls, but does to your emails &#8212; send emails to ask for phone meetings. If these requests are rebuffed, it&#8217;s time to consider if your are talking to the right person or if your search is still as hot as it once was.</li>
<li>When taking the order, set the parameters for preferred communication. This dictates the rules of engagement and allows you the opportunity to explain why you need to talk directly to them at certain junctures. Get their verbal agreement, and move forward. If there is a problem with a request to have phone time with them, then it must be considered that this search is not the urgent priority you need it to be.</li>
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<p>The countdown continues next week&#8230;</p>

<div><em>About the author:</em> Nate Elgert is a Senior Account Manager at Aureus Group, a Division of C&amp;A Industries, located in Omaha, Nebraska. C&amp;A Industries is a former Inc. 500 company and is one of the largest privately owned Staffing and Recruitment firms in the United States. C&amp;A Industries currently places candidates in every state.  Nate focuses his recruitment in Accounting, Finance, and Banking, primarily across Nebraska and Iowa. Nate joined the Aureus Group in 2006 and during that time has run both a dual desk, and has focused on Account Management. Nate is former Golf Professional and still enjoys the occasional round with his friends and family as time allows.  Nate is married to his wife Angie, and has two girls, Sofia and Cecilia.
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		<title>Fun Friday: The Genius &#8220;Voicemail Resume&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Amybeth Hale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you hire this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxtRCXhi5E0 His qualifications include: Patented inventor Best of the best Self-proclaimed genius Has a lot of powerful friends who want him to enter into politics soon Has an education that would &#8220;blow your arm &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you hire this guy?</p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxtRCXhi5E0</p>
<p>His qualifications include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Patented inventor</li>
<li>Best of the best</li>
<li>Self-proclaimed genius</li>
<li>Has a lot of powerful friends who want him to enter into politics soon</li>
<li>Has an education that would &#8220;blow your arm off&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Young women love him&#8221; and he &#8220;looks good &#8211; and that&#8217;s a problem&#8221;</li>
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<p>He needs:</p>
<ul>
<li>Part-time work, since he is on disability and cannot make more than $1,000 per month</li>
<li>To make a couple hundred bucks a week</li>
<li>Just a little money &#8211; after all, he doesn&#8217;t like money</li>
</ul>
<p>He will:</p>
<ul>
<li>Analyze thought values</li>
<li>Do anything, including shoveling sh#$ (he said so)</li>
</ul>
<p>Have any of you ever received a voicemail like this?</p>

<div><em>About the author:</em> Amybeth Hale began her career in recruiting working for Jon Bartos as the sole researcher for his award-winning MRI-affiliated executive search firm in Cincinnati. She then served as the Manager of Internet Research for SearchPath International out of Cleveland, OH. She is currently the Editor for <a href="http://www.fordyceletter.com">The Fordyce Letter</a> and manages the <a href="http://www.fordyceforum.com">Fordyce Forum</a> annual conference for big-biller recruiting. Amybeth is affectionately known as the "Research Goddess." You can connect with her on Twitter at <a href="http://www.twitter.com/researchgoddess">@researchgoddess</a>.
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		<title>A Letter to the Editor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Finkel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following letter was sent to the Editor by regular Fordyce contributor, Steve Finkel, in reference to an article by Jim Domanski from the September Fordyce Letter print issue titled The War Against Voice Mail &#8211; Part I: 11 Sure-Fire &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following letter was sent to the Editor by regular Fordyce contributor, <a href="http://www.fordyceletter.com/author/stevefinkel/" target="_blank">Steve Finkel</a>, in reference to an article by <a href="http://www.teleconceptsconsulting.com" target="_blank">Jim Domanski</a> from the September Fordyce Letter <a href="https://subscriptions.fordyceletter.com/" target="_blank">print issue</a> titled <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The War Against Voice Mail &#8211; Part I: 11 Sure-Fire Ways to Get Past Voice Mail and Reach More Decision Makers</span>:</p>
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<div>Dear Amybeth,</p>
<p>I would like to compliment you – and quite obviously the author – for the exceptional cover article in the last issue of The Fordyce Letter (“The War Against Voicemail”, by Jim Domanski).</p>
<p>Our industry is sufficiently different from all others that practitioners should mainly rely upon the best industry-specific training to enhance production.  Nevertheless, there is no doubt that in some areas effective business-to-business techniques transition to our industry exceedingly well. Mr. Domanski’s article on voicemail is a good example of this.</p>
<p>TFL readers might also be interested in a book on a similar subject entitled &#8220;I’ll Get Back To You!  156 Ways to Get People to Return Your Call&#8221; by noted sales author Robert Shook and public relations expert Eric Yaverbaum.  This book may be out of print at this time, but a glance at Amazon would reveal quite a number of used copies available.  I would venture to say that there is no one in our industry who can read this exceptional book and not benefit significantly.</p>
<p>Again, my compliments on an exceptional article by Mr. Domanski.  There is much to be learned in some areas from non-industry authorities and this is a good example of that fact.</p>
<p>Most cordially,</p>
<p>Steve Finkel<br />
Professional Search Seminars<br />
St. Louis, Missouri</p>
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<p><em>If you have a letter for the Editor, please email it to <a href="mailto:amybeth@fordyceletter.com">amybeth@fordyceletter.com</a></em></p>

<div><em>About the author:</em> Acclaimed international author, speaker, and trainer Steve Finkel is a veteran of over 30 years and six recessions in our industry.  

Personnel Consultant Magazine, published by the National Association of Personnel Consultants, has referred to him as possessing "the most in-depth knowledge of search and placement in industry history."  Recruitment International Magazine, Europe's largest industry publication, has described him as "the world's premier author and trainer in search and recruitment." His revised and up-to-date 360-page book Breakthrough! is now distributed in 25 countries and is also available on Amazon.

Contact him at 314-991-3177 or <a href="http://www.stevefinkel.com">www.stevefinkel.com</a>.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil Lebovits</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Neil: My greatest challenge is in securing job orders. Specifically, how can I go about getting more returned calls from my clients when I leave voicemail? Here is one sure-fire tip to massively increase your call backs. It &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Dear Neil: My greatest challenge is in securing job orders. Specifically, how can I go about getting more returned calls from my clients when I leave voicemail? </strong></em></p>
<p>Here is one sure-fire tip to massively increase your call backs. It is quite simple: take advantage of the fact that you are a recruiter!</p>
<p>Your product is a person (as is, of course, your prospect). ALWAYS (especially with C-level or higher targets) start your call as a recruiting call. Yes, even if you are calling HR and don&#8217;t place HR people.  You can always market them if they are good. This is great when trying to reach the line.  You can easily leave a very cryptic/mysterious message.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Hi, Neil. I was referred to you and thought we ought to talk. I don&#8217;t want to leave a message about the subject, please call me back at 555-123-4567.&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, if you weren&#8217;t actually referred to them, then skip that part.  You can still just let them know that you have something to discuss that you&#8217;d rather not leave on voicemail. There is nothing wrong with this and who will NOT want to see what this is all about?</p>
<p>I have been told by some that this is a ruse.  It is not! Everything you say is true.  You are going to recruit them (or try to, which is something you should always be doing anyway).</p>
<p>When they call back, you will explain who you are and why you wanted to be very professional and cautious with them during the message. Recruit them. Make it <em>about them.</em> Then, after the initial conversation, turn it into a marketing call or call back later. The gate will be open! I am surprised how few people do this all of the time!</p>
<p>Try it, you&#8217;ll like it!</p>

<div><em>About the author:</em> Neil Lebovits, CPA, CPC, CTS, before taking the industry by storm as a trainer, was a global president for Adecco, where he sat on the global executive team. Previously, Neil was the president and COO of Ajilon Professional staffing for North America, where he oversaw over 100 offices. Neil has done it all in the industry: Permanent &amp; Temporary Placement, Sales, Branch Management, Regional Management, COO, &amp; President. He founded his industry training &amp; development company, http://www.TheDynamicSale.Com, in 2009.  Neil shares the secrets and systems that he has developed and harnessed while working himself up over his 20+ years in the industry. A renowned leader, motivator, trainer, and speaker, he has appeared on Bloomberg TV, CNN, ABC news, CNBC, the Wall Street Journal, Fortune, and Smart Money. Learn more about Neil and sign up for his free online training course at www.TheDynamicSale.Com.
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