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Oh No! The Hiring Manager Wants to Present the Offer

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Editor’s note: Each month, Gary Stauble offers quick, easy-to-implement ideas on various subjects. This month’s topics have to do with when to start a search, your inner dialogue, and presenting offers.

Topic #1: Should you start a search without a signed agreement?

We were all likely taught that you should never start a search without a signed agreement. This makes good sense for many obvious reasons. However, what do you do if a hiring manager authorizes you to send people for a search but does not return your agreement promptly?


Avoid Deal Killing Conflicts of Interest When Recruiting Attorneys


LawyerZoneDid you know that the number of law firms seeking lateral partners with an existing book of business or merger partners that help expand their footprint will be even greater in 2014 than in 2013? Did you know that the recruiting process for laterals and merger partners for most law firms is broken? Do you know how much the adage “haste makes waste” applies to the recruiting process for law firms? Do you know how time critical the recruiting process for law firms is?

If your firm has been hired by law firms in the past, you may find it increasingly difficult to be hired in the future if you do not have effective strategies to answer many of these questions.

A law firm may be motivated by many reasons to hire a search firm that specializes in identifying “laterals” — lawyers with a portable book of business — that are interested in joining a new firm or finding a merger partner. The law firm may want


But For Using “But For,” You Would Have Collected Your Fee. So Don’t!

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The single biggest contingency fee collection defense is the so-called “but for” rule. Yet recruiters and their lawyers constantly use it as a legal rationale to get paid. When you start a fee collection with, “But for my referral . . .” it will likely end with, “. . . farewell five figure fee.”

Today, I’m going to explain why you should remove the words “but for” from any collection attempt.

Jeff's On Call!

The Payback Attack to Employee Payback Agreements


Jeff –

I’m really benefiting from your writing and thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to answer my question.

I’m working with a candidate who accepted a position with a company that I didn’t submit him for. About a month later, this network engineer told me that the job was terrible and he is only doing network cleanup and documentation. Then he tells me that the agency that placed him made him sign a contract that stated that if he left the job before the three month guarantee period that he would need to pay the agency the lost fee.

This was a new one for me in my 18 year career – I’ve never heard this. Is it enforceable?


David Cohen
Agency owner in NJ
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Do You Know Where Your Sendouts Are Working Today?

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Editor’s note: Jeff Allen has heard every employer excuse that you can imagine for not paying up — and dozens more that defy imagination. Over the last 18 months, he’s documented one a week. Because of the importance of collections, Fordyce will periodically reprise the most common situations he addressed. The complete collection is here.

What Client Says:

Another recruiter was responsible for the placement.

Fees, Jeff's On Call!

Think You’ve Got A Case? Here’s How We Decide

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Proving you earned your fee is far different from earning it. Since we accept collections on a contingency fee basis, we become your partner in the investment. For this reason, we have developed guidelines to decide whether to invest our time and money. Using them has enabled us to attain a 93% collection rate. Here they are:

1. Is The Recruiter Being Realistic?

It’s natural for unpaid recruiters to be angry. Some say they’d rather see us get the money than let the employer get away with not paying. Others insist they want far more than the full amount as compensation for their pain and suffering. We admire them, but suggest they call their local bar association for a referral.

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Ad or You? Where Did the Hire Come From?

Jeff Allen COllection Tip

Editor’s note: Jeff Allen has heard every employer excuse that you can imagine for not paying up — and dozens more that defy imagination. Over the last 18 months, he’s documented one a week. Because of the importance of collections, Fordyce will periodically reprise the most common situations he addressed. The complete collection is here.

What Client Says:

The candidate answered an advertisement.

Industry News

Supreme Court to Decide Temp Workers Overtime Claims

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amazon lawsuit TVA case that has the potential to cost staffing companies — and, in turn, their clients — hundreds of millions of dollars is headed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The justices agreed to hear a FLSA suit against Amazon’s temp worker provider Integrity Staffing Solutions over whether workers should be paid for the time they spend going through company security on their way home.

Two former employees provided by Integrity who worked at Amazon’s two Nevada warehouses sued the retailer’s staffing firm demanding to be paid for the 20-25 minutes it routinely takes them to clear the daily security check. Because the case was filed as a class action, it could affect many or most  of the estimated 38,000 temps at Amazon’s three dozen U.S. warehouses and distribution centers.

Mark Thierman, a labor and employment attorney with Thierman Law Firm in Reno represents the workers. He says that with turnover, the number of potential class action participants could reach 100,000 and, if they should win, the cost could reach into the hundreds of millions.

Fees, Jeff's On Call!

How-To Avoid Falloffs While Getting Pegged as a Pro

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(L)ong-term prospects at a company are often determined during the initial phase of a job. Contrary to popular thinking, the first six months on a job are much more than a period of acclimation and adjustment. During this erroneously-labeled getting-acquainted period, a new employee is “pegged” sub-consciously in the minds of the decision-makers in the company. . . It may be superficial as well as unfair, but informal pegging occurs in all companies. . . Ironically, it is the subconscious and non-logical nature of pegging that makes it so easy to manipulate for your purposes.

These words are from a brilliant book, The Right Moves: Succeeding in a Man’s World Without a Harvard MBA by Charlene Mitchell and Thomas Burdick. This PTL uses their suggestions (and mine from both sides of the hiring desk) to show you how to fight falloffs.

Fees, Jeff's On Call!

Don’t Let Your ‘Blind’ Resume Become A Runaway


Dear Jeff

I find your column to be extremely helpful and have benefited from your advice on several occasions. I’m a recruiter with 21 years of experience currently working in a very candidate driven market. I have been fortunate to be recognized in the top producer category of the various personnel associations in our industry.

Since my rookie year I’ve always been taught that sending a resume blind has inherent risks because if someone sends the same resume with identification, the blind resume loses. That’s why I’m submitting the following scenario which I just encountered.

One recruiter submits a blind resume without candidate knowledge or permission, but the client does nothing with it. The description on the resume doesn’t really fit their job description. Several weeks later another recruiter submits the same resume with contact information and a presentation to the hiring authority explaining some