Comments on: More Clarification Than Rant http://www.fordyceletter.com/2009/02/27/more-clarification-than-rant/ Straight Talk for the Recruiting Profession Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Keoughan_Tom http://www.fordyceletter.com/2009/02/27/more-clarification-than-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-3846 Keoughan_Tom Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:50:07 +0000 http://www.fordyceletter.com/?p=1910#comment-3846 Hi Dave, I had some oral surgery this morning (that’s one way to shut him up!) and as such, my neurons are not firing exactly as I’d like them to. I would like to defer comment until some later date. It seems that although my current level of diplomacy might be somewhat questionable; my self preservation instinct remains intact. Tom Keoughan www.toyjobs.com Hi Dave,
I had some oral surgery this morning (that’s one way to shut him up!) and as such, my neurons are not firing exactly as I’d like them to. I would like to defer comment until some later date. It seems that although my current level of diplomacy might be somewhat questionable; my self preservation instinct remains intact.
Tom Keoughan
http://www.toyjobs.com

]]> By: Dave Staats http://www.fordyceletter.com/2009/02/27/more-clarification-than-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-3840 Dave Staats Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:54:29 +0000 http://www.fordyceletter.com/?p=1910#comment-3840 No disagreement at all here... I only mean that Fordyce recruiters cannot BE unemployed. Non-TPRs by any preferred term just are not the same thing. Absolutely we will lose souls on both sides...which is why I was careful to say there can be LOTS of FORMER recruiters of both kinds but only those who do not make placements like us can be unemployed...all in the philosophical sense of course. And kudos to Todd for the effort. I hope some good comes of it. I'd LOVE to see some from that list come over to the side of the good and true and be productive employed headhunters! No disagreement at all here… I only mean that Fordyce recruiters cannot BE unemployed. Non-TPRs by any preferred term just are not the same thing. Absolutely we will lose souls on both sides…which is why I was careful to say there can be LOTS of FORMER recruiters of both kinds but only those who do not make placements like us can be unemployed…all in the philosophical sense of course.

And kudos to Todd for the effort. I hope some good comes of it. I’d LOVE to see some from that list come over to the side of the good and true and be productive employed headhunters!

]]> By: Elaine Rigoli http://www.fordyceletter.com/2009/02/27/more-clarification-than-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-3839 Elaine Rigoli Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:41:37 +0000 http://www.fordyceletter.com/?p=1910#comment-3839 Good post, Dave, and filled with your eternal optimism! But I still maintain that we're in the toughest economy in decades. Weak recruiters not involved in the rare market (i.e., healthcare) NOT affected by a struggling economy *will* disappear from the industry. Not everyone will accept defeat, but I think the phrase "necessity is the mother of invention" means some recruiters might be more keen to vacillate between corporate/third-party.(Some may not out of pride, some may not out of sheer talent. I think you fall in the latter, of course!) Anyhow, that list seemed like a neat way to have both sides come together to trade opportunities. Happy Friday! Good post, Dave, and filled with your eternal optimism! But I still maintain that we’re in the toughest economy in decades. Weak recruiters not involved in the rare market (i.e., healthcare) NOT affected by a struggling economy *will* disappear from the industry. Not everyone will accept defeat, but I think the phrase “necessity is the mother of invention” means some recruiters might be more keen to vacillate between corporate/third-party.(Some may not out of pride, some may not out of sheer talent. I think you fall in the latter, of course!) Anyhow, that list seemed like a neat way to have both sides come together to trade opportunities. Happy Friday!

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